Comments on: City’s Future = Slums? http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:16:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Prananda Navitas http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1425 Prananda Navitas Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:31:02 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1425 Let me first quote: "Grow the feeling of common ownerships. Participatory planning in slum areas would be proven effective, because the inhabitants are also involved in the process. We need to let them know first of all, that this is for the common sake of everyone." it is indeed true that when citizens are involved in every decision making process they will develop ownership towards every decision taken. @Adam: the fact that our squatters occupy riverbanks in my opinion raises a challenge for us architects and planners to think way out of the box. I guess they have their reasons to occupy the riverbanks, and if relocation won't work, then we should educate them about the hazards that they would bring upon themselves should they mistreat the riverbank in which they occupy. We should also sanitize our rivers and canals to provide a healthier environment for them. There's this place in Denmark where the water was so polluted from the shipping activities that took place there. The government then decided to clean the place up and sanitized the water to make it fit for recreation. This is no cheap stuff I'm sure, and it's certainly not an overnight job, but I'm sure if every element of society is involved then this can also happen to our rivers and canals. Thus providing a healthier environment for the squatters (provided also that they be educated in hygiene, etc.) and for the city as a whole. Let me first quote: “Grow the feeling of common ownerships. Participatory planning in slum areas would be proven effective, because the inhabitants are also involved in the process. We need to let them know first of all, that this is for the common sake of everyone.” it is indeed true that when citizens are involved in every decision making process they will develop ownership towards every decision taken.

@Adam: the fact that our squatters occupy riverbanks in my opinion raises a challenge for us architects and planners to think way out of the box. I guess they have their reasons to occupy the riverbanks, and if relocation won’t work, then we should educate them about the hazards that they would bring upon themselves should they mistreat the riverbank in which they occupy. We should also sanitize our rivers and canals to provide a healthier environment for them. There’s this place in Denmark where the water was so polluted from the shipping activities that took place there. The government then decided to clean the place up and sanitized the water to make it fit for recreation. This is no cheap stuff I’m sure, and it’s certainly not an overnight job, but I’m sure if every element of society is involved then this can also happen to our rivers and canals. Thus providing a healthier environment for the squatters (provided also that they be educated in hygiene, etc.) and for the city as a whole.

]]> By: vicky ariyanti http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1424 vicky ariyanti Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:14:26 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1424 @Adam: Well.. we need to put trust for something we don't see right now. These are potentials of the grass root society. But, of course if the structure is less vulnerable many will rethink of staying in this rejuvenated area. @Adam: Well.. we need to put trust for something we don’t see right now. These are potentials of the grass root society. But, of course if the structure is less vulnerable many will rethink of staying in this rejuvenated area.

]]> By: Adam http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1422 Adam Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:07:06 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1422 I'd like to ask about improvements of slums. I'm not sure about this, especially in our big cities. why? because many slums in Java are built on illegal land or river banks which is not supposed to be built as homes afterall. imagine if we build comfortable places on these places, in the future there will be more people who come to the "improved slums". About rusunami, I think it's better than improved slum because we can find a good land that is not vulnerable to natural hazard. But still, the government should not just build the cities but also the rural areas to decrease the urbanization I’d like to ask about improvements of slums. I’m not sure about this, especially in our big cities. why? because many slums in Java are built on illegal land or river banks which is not supposed to be built as homes afterall. imagine if we build comfortable places on these places, in the future there will be more people who come to the “improved slums”. About rusunami, I think it’s better than improved slum because we can find a good land that is not vulnerable to natural hazard. But still, the government should not just build the cities but also the rural areas to decrease the urbanization

]]> By: vicky ariyanti http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1417 vicky ariyanti Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:39:51 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1417 @adam, that is very correct, that's why an architect is needed to help improving this settlement @shinta, this rusunami solution is not really a good solution. imagine if along everywhere towers are built and demands are still increasing. what we need to focus more is how to empower other regions to develop in the level of bigger cities. @adam, that is very correct, that’s why an architect is needed to help improving this settlement

@shinta, this rusunami solution is not really a good solution. imagine if along everywhere towers are built and demands are still increasing. what we need to focus more is how to empower other regions to develop in the level of bigger cities.

]]> By: shinta http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1423 shinta Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:35:39 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1423 Recent article said abt 'rusunami', affordable vertical residential which is provided to replace those kind of slum in big cities area around Indonesia. although I havent got much time to observe it, but I guess for 'temporary' solution, that's the best we could do though we wouldnt know how long its gona b adequate for those increasing commuters??? Recent article said abt ‘rusunami’, affordable vertical residential which is provided to replace those kind of slum in big cities area around Indonesia. although I havent got much time to observe it, but I guess for ‘temporary’ solution, that’s the best we could do though we wouldnt know how long its gona b adequate for those increasing commuters???

]]> By: Adam http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1418 Adam Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:01:21 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1418 usually slums also places that have high vulnerability to natural and social hazard. the architects should view this condition as challenge to propose a built environment that responsive to the hazard usually slums also places that have high vulnerability to natural and social hazard. the architects should view this condition as challenge to propose a built environment that responsive to the hazard

]]> By: derek http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1420 derek Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:59:11 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1420 to be or not to be,thats the question..... to be or not to be,thats the question…..

]]> By: robert http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1419 robert Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:54:42 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1419 yea i like this concept to generate the development from the bottom line, nice! yea i like this concept to generate the development from the bottom line, nice!

]]> By: jane_m http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1421 jane_m Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:52:17 +0000 http://ar-chi-tect.org/citys-future-slums/#comment-1421 that's a nice concept ahead, yes agree that slum area should not to be demolished, but, arranged.... :) that’s a nice concept ahead, yes agree that slum area should not to be demolished, but, arranged…. :)

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